what should my next mod be?

[a4wdhybrid]

im sort of itching to do something to the car...it seems to be running fairly well *knock on wood* ...just not sure what should be next...

any suggestions? ...doesnt have to be 1.8t related..just figured id post it here

im kind of broke for the next few days but i get paid shortly :gt-ogb-spank:

[sweaty meat hammer]

BLACK ROOF MOD!!!!!!!!!!!:oddeye-hellyeah:

Now that weve seen it in person its a must. I will def do it but I have other plans for now.

[a4wdhybrid]

as hot as itd be but no black roof

im totally digging some go fast mods

i cant help it

it gives me a rush

and im a total addict :smack:

[evan@absolute]

you need more rpms! more rpms! more rpms! Do whatever it is that is holding that back.
or a drivetrain stabilizer makes a big difference in putting the power to the ground.

[a4wdhybrid]

either standalone or a new dbw tune

i might could possibly swing a somewhat big purchase coming up here in a little while...

[a4wdhybrid]

maybe http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Precision-Turbo-Front-Mount-Intercooler-750-hp_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ107066QQihZ013QQitem Z230031866758QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

but not from them for $459 when i can get it from clay for $370

rebars are for pvssies

doing back to back pulls in the tunnel i could feel the car lose power over 5k after several pulls

[dekroon]

From my seat they felt consistantly strong. Bite the bullet on the profec-b

[a4wdhybrid]

id love to have a turbosmart eboost2 or the aem boost controller

aem is about $100 cheaper

[evan@absolute]

n to the o to the s!:laff: maybe you could spray it from 2500 to 4400 to get it going then let the turbo do it from there

[a4wdhybrid]

http://www.revolvercams.com/vwaudi.html

Part Number: rev.058.248/258
Application: VW / Audi 1.8liter turbo, 4 cylinder 20 valve
Duration / Intake: 248º
Duration / Exhaust: 258º
Valve Lift / Intake: 8.9 mm
Valve Lift / Exhaust: 10.5 mm
Notes: Hydraulic lash, no adjustment necessary

[gerich]

Has anybody seen any real gains with these?

[a4wdhybrid]

i have always read/heard the only gains offered w/ cams are w/ a bt set up

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1292341

maybe these cats..from qedpower.com

partnr.: 1013651
duration: 245 / 262°
duration: 207 / 217°
maximum lift: 8.25 / 9.95mm
lift at TDC: 0.30 / 0.95mm
parts: O.E.M.
application: HYDR: sport Mild Street cam, good for VVT cars with stock management

[evan@absolute]

yessss!!!!!!

[a4wdhybrid]

yes..i think i may have found a winner

cat 1013651 ...but we'll have to see how it goes

:gt-ogb-spank:

[a4wdhybrid]

http://www.elitedubs.com/text/index.php/topic,1961.0.html

[Vampire Cockroach]

as if your car couldnt get any more badass....

edit: glad to see you are still rocking the wheels.

[Yareka]

dude...as if you need your powerband shifted up even more.:smack:

$100 velocity stack/k&n
$30 dumptube
$250 greddy profec
$200 meth kit
$600 007 intake mani

[a4wdhybrid]

dude...as if you need your powerband shifted up even more.:smack:

$100 velocity stack/k&n space where my filter goes is very limited...not enough room
$30 dumptube dump tube for what? for the downpipe?
$250 greddy profec no profec...eboost 2 or aem controller
$200 meth kit water meth has never really done it for me..i know theres a lot of benefits but not a mod i really want to do right now
$600 007 intake mani im not a transverse guy ;)
*must enter atleast one character*

[pinky]

i think you answered your own question:

eboost 2 or aem controller

[a4wdhybrid]

im fairly happy w/ my $9 ebay mbc

i want cams

if i get cams and the powerband shifts a lot to the right ill see what i can do about moving it back towards the left

[junkboy]

How about Limited Slip Differential for you car? its a good mod :)

[a4wdhybrid]

how often do you think i spin all 4 wheels to need an lsd?

[8------D]

9k rev animal. let that turbo get out of the cage.

[Ak-Abe]

9k rev animal. let that turbo get out of the cage.
THinking from my Brotha's Thinking (BOJAN) go buy you a BMW engine and put it in the a4 hehehehhehhe:D

[buttersgolf]

you do anything trans/clutch wise yet?

[a4wdhybrid]

southbend clutch

stock tranny/diff

im not touching my tranny or diff yet and my clutch is fine

edit: tom?

[buttersgolf]

uh huh.

[buttersgolf]

you still haven't decided on the fmic yet?

[a4wdhybrid]

the core i have now is fine for the time being

i want cams :smack:

[a4wdhybrid]

talked to bob on the phone

said the 3651's will drop right in and work fine w/ a stock ecu/bt software, "w/ a turbo that size you should see no less than 30-40hp", and said the powerband will move a little to the right some but not much

told him spool is around 4400 or so and he said it shouldnt change much from that and i should be able to bump timing up some w/ lemmi to help w/ the change

travis..hurry up ;)

:gt-ogb-spank:

[Yareka]

30-40hp for ~800 is a pretty good investment. Still think you should look at an intake mani to push up the entire powerband and help with spool. I realize you have the aeb, but there are still some gains to be had and I'm sure bob has/will have one of those 007 manifolds to test before long. Initial dynos on showed +20-30 throughout but I'm waiting for the guinea pigs to get theirs installed before I even consider doing that.

[a4wdhybrid]

cams are $600...less if travis will hurry up and get an account..if not then im looking @ the full $600 retail because im ready to buy *now*

no one makes an intake mani for a longitudinal motor...edit: except dalhback but that ish is $2200 and a total rip off

a 007 wont work..issam has/had a custom longitudinal mani but was auctioning it off..highest bid was ~$750 i think

oh..and im still sandbagging when it comes to cyl heads ;)

[Yareka]

gotcha...oh well, atleast you got the big ports from the factory:D

and you answered another question about bf, I figured they would be mass producing theirs by now and offering one for your engine, but I guess the market isnt there. Last I heard, their transverse manifolds were under 400.

damn, 600 retail on the cams sounds like a smokin deal. Travis, the man wants some cams:D

[a4wdhybrid]

oh..and im still sandbagging when it comes to cyl heads ;)
gotcha...oh well, atleast you got the big ports from the factory:D
:gt-bb-chongin:

[Ak-Abe]

Intake mani yum yum...:)

[a4wdhybrid]

abe/yareka...since you both seem to like intake manis so much..

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2855203

[a4wdhybrid]

*cough*abe/yareka*cough*

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2858152

[Yareka]

ah...looks like a hack job. Not trying to half ass anything from here on out:D
And the guys says that this was the inspiration for the 1st gen usrt manis, which didnt do a damn thing. I'd rather pay a little more for something thats proven. Thanks for lookin out though.

did you catch the fact that evan now is a meth dealer:gt-bb-chongin:

[a4wdhybrid]

im only doing it to egg you on :p

and yes i did

me and evan have already swapped pm's

but its not about meth ;)

[Yareka]

nothing wrong with a new intercooler core...i might look into a precision or treadstone next spring. This is where that falls into my scheme

.64 coated housing > aem wideband > greddy ebc > 12.3 brakes > ic core

just picked up tt caliper carriers off of ebay yesterday...going to start piecing that togetha soon.

[a4wdhybrid]

tt upgrade is a good upgrade...the whole lists looks like good upgrades

right now im @ cams > core > :gt-bb-chongin:

[Yareka]

I'd like to see those cams work out for you...:oddeye-hellyeah: for still being the pioneer. Hopefully that map sensor will tell the ecu to add that fuel on top, 30-40hp is pushing a heck of a lot more air. You really are going to put those injectors to good use now. Standalone would really come into play with the cams in there.


I'm looking forward to the .64 housing bringing my spool down considerably, really wish I would have gotten the right housing from the get-go like I was promised. I like the power up top but you really need to be commited to go wot in this thing now. :gt-ogb-spank:

[a4wdhybrid]

thanks...i like being "the pioneer" w/ stuff

the map has been clamped w/ a 4.7v diode for a while now...hoepfully the ecu will work it out...30-40hp is def a nice jump....i made about 50 more hp @ the crank last time @ the dyno as opposed to the first time, 268whp vs 307whp..same software

oh..those injectors are def going to get worked...standalone would rock :oddball-thatworks:

and yes..spool is a wonderful thing...same w/ my car though..you have to have room before wot

[Yareka]

I'm speaking outloud here trying to understand motronic better, not criticizing

I wonder if that clamped map is hurting you at all as far as fuel/timing up top. 4.7 is 17psi...right? So if the ecu thinks you hit 17psi and stays there, how is it going to adjust for the higher psi. The only other way the ecu can see the increased psi or need for fuel is through the o2 or maf, right. If you ever decide to bypass the maf again, or it gets a funky reading, everything is on the o2?

[a4wdhybrid]

thats how i read it as well

not sure about timing..fueling seems to be fine as it never runs lean under boost

yea, 17psi, clamping it bypasses limp mode or the closing of the throttle if the ecu feels the need

the thing about upsolute software is i think it still has a lot of the motronic bs built in

revo is a lot nicer when it comes to that stuff

[Yareka]

I think other than you being stuck w/ your rev limiter, that sw seems to be treating you quite well considering the size of turbos you are playing with.:cool_goatee:

I'd still like for both of us to log total timing and see what they are requesting throughout rpms. I'm pretty damn happy with mine, We just need to get revo to disable the sai codes and things will be golden.

[a4wdhybrid]

i really cant complain too much about the software...it does run richer than it could though but overall the car drives really smooth

i wish my laptop didnt suck :(

sec air delete would help you guys out a lot...remove all that stuff and no cel :pimp:

[Yareka]

cant forget about the evap too:upyeah:

[zooyork155]

While they're at it, ditch the MAF and run off the MAP signal. That'd be sweet.

[Yareka]

not for part throttle...which the maf is really there for:oddeye-hellyeah:

btw, I passed you yesterday on 540...you were moving at a pretty good pace going west. Car looks mighty mean dumped on steelies:yum:

[evan@absolute]

It does seem like if your ecu sees 17psi it will be on the higher load maps all the way through and keep your timing lower during spool. Now that might not be so bad in your case cause it drives the egts up.But i would think really you would be better with the timing up. What if you ran a boost switch that went from map sensor to diode at x psi. That way you could rock the extra timing down low but not go limp up top. This would make for a more complicated set up but. I know that doesn't scare a guy like you:cool:

[Yareka]

I didnt know he was going limp up top...hes only running ~20psi.

[evan@absolute]

I didnt know he was going limp up top...hes only running ~20psi.
I misread where he said clamping it bypasses limp mode and thought he was saying clamping it fixed his limp mode. I still say the ecu needs to see less boost down low to put it in the right part of the timing map.

[Yareka]

I may be way confused but I reread that and he *is* saying that his diode is keeping him from going limp. It may be really finicky like the stock ecu or apr where if the actual is anything 3* higher than requested, you get thrown into limp. Thats really odd for bt software though...why would not want to hit 20:confused:

dammit wheres ian at when you need him...:gt-ogb-spank:

[evan@absolute]

man standing on street corner shouting "greentops! get your greentops here"

[a4wdhybrid]

yea..diode only comes into play @ 4.7v/17psi

ecu still sees the correct boost all the way up to 17psi

limp mode = 200mbar diff between request vs actual

[Yareka]

I'm starting to realize the answer to the thread title....and its not cams:gt-ogb-spank:

[evan@absolute]

yea..diode only comes into play @ 4.7v/17psi

ecu still sees the correct boost all the way up to 17psi

limp mode = 200mbar diff between request vs actual

ahh i understand what you have going on now.

[Yareka]

ahh i understand what you have going on now and it sucks to pwned by software


:oddeye-hellyeah:

[a4wdhybrid]

I'm starting to realize the answer to the thread title....and its not cams:gt-ogb-spank:
standalone?

[Yareka]

;)

[a4wdhybrid]

i cant afford standalone

$1100 (034 Ic) + dbc conversion $200 + install time + tuning time = no dd for me and no 2nd car :(

if i can spend half that and pick up 30hp + crank the boost = best buy for the time being

the cams are of course assuming travis hurries the eff up...im getting impatient over here :smack:

[a4wdhybrid]

034 Ic $1175 - http://034motorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_46&products_id=35

dbc conversion $125 + $49.95 + $115, http://034motorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_45&products_id=376 , http://034motorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_45&products_id=370 , http://034motorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_45&products_id=354

coils $44.88 x2 - http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MSD%2D8224&N=700+115&autoview=sku

16v plug wires $115 - http://www.namotorsports.net/detail.cfm/part_cd/NS47.10.12

:(

[dekroon]

the cams are of course assuming travis hurries the eff up...im getting impatient over here :smack:

I should have more info for you later in the day. If it where as simple as placing a call to get them, you would have em :cool:

[a4wdhybrid]

i know :cool: ..but you know how spastic and impatient i am when it comes to buying stuff :D

[dekroon]

I can relate, it's almost as bad as waiting for an xb360:D

[a4wdhybrid]

speaking of...whats the deal w/ that thing?

[pinky]

I can relate, it's almost as bad as waiting for an xb360:D

i ordered one of those off of ebay and some jackass just sent me the box!

:mad:

[a4wdhybrid]

really?

what a douche :mad:

[dekroon]

i ordered one of those off of ebay and some jackass just sent me the box!

:mad:
Did you read the description properly?

[a4wdhybrid]

finally... :D