Thinkin about this....

[FatBastrd]

http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi/?html=learnmore.html&productID=5816

...in the semi-distant future. Probably around Oct/Nov. Gotta save up the cash. Thoughts/input?

[Vampire Cockroach]

not really worth your cash

It's a KO4-001... a tiny bit bigger than the snail you have now

you could maybe get 10 hp tops, chipped, over what you have right now

you would probably be able to extract that much, if not more, out of a ko3s with meth and lemmiwinks tuning

[FatBastrd]

Hmmmm....and they make it sound so good. Guess I need to spend time learning about turbo setups rather than thinking about buying one right now.

[a4wdhybrid]

you want to just give me the $905 and ill put it to a better use?

like hookers and :gt-bb-chongin:

[TurboMatt]

you want to just give me the $905 and ill put it to a better use?

like hookers and :gt-bb-chongin:
hahaha.... yeah booda if your gonna go big turbo then go big. just save your money a little longer. first off get Revo, front mount, and other little goodies that will be useful for BT

[IN-FLT]

hahaha....get Revo, front mount, and other little goodies that will be useful for BT


x2 :upyeah:

oh yeah and tint :cool:

[evan@absolute]

I disagree on the K04-01 not being a good upgrade. I have done two of them in the past on mk4s and with the GIAC file they are very nice. I am not saying the peak hp is the highest but it keeps a very nice bottom end and caries the power nicely into the upper rpms. All of this withfactory drivability and reliability. It is a decent upgrade for the $$ while you add the other things like intercooler, rods and pistons that you will need if you go with a big turbo.

[FatBastrd]

Well...I'm thinking for the time being....I'm gonna go with a DV, downpipe, exhaust, and possibly new springs as well as a few cosmetic add ons. Dunno if I wanna go BT or not. Maybe just a good upgrade.

[sflemon]

I'd recommend the same as others:

Chip first. Learn, get used to that, and hang out in the 1.8T forums on vortex reading.

Then move on to stuff you can use later for BT, like a front mount or meth.

At that point I'd recommend having a 1.8T "roadie" kit: extra coil pack, spark plugs, tools to get to/put back on boost tubes, oil, etc......

And........that pretty engine bay gonna go bye bye once you start messing/tweaking power stuff.

I'd also recommend doing as much stuff on a DIY basis as you can. BT cars and stage II with all bolt ons are not change it and leave it setups. They take some time and effort to tweak and extract useable power from.

At this point I'd give up my check engine light free status for fuboost.:puking: Damn car must be on its period.

[a4wdhybrid]

I disagree on the K04-01 not being a good upgrade.
and you also thought a pd block + alh head would work too :p

i had to take that one...

[TurboMatt]

I disagree on the K04-01 not being a good upgrade. I have done two of them in the past on mk4s and with the GIAC file they are very nice. I am not saying the peak hp is the highest but it keeps a very nice bottom end and caries the power nicely into the upper rpms. All of this withfactory drivability and reliability. It is a decent upgrade for the $$ while you add the other things like intercooler, rods and pistons that you will need if you go with a big turbo.
aaaahhhh.... dont listen to this guy booda...... j/k evan! by the way evan did you get my PM

[FatBastrd]

Odds are...I won't go BT. I honestly don't think I need 300hp. It'd be nice to have, but I'd just end up getting myself in loads of trouble and probably get my license taken away again. That and I can still be balla without massive amounts of power. Still, I'll cross the turbo upgrade road when I get there.

[evan@absolute]

and you also thought a pd block + alh head would work too :p

i had to take that one...
Hey eat me there hybrid boy:p I sure as hell didn't make that call. Fwiw i think i can take you in the 1/8th with a k04 mk4:gt-ogb-spank:

[dekroon]

Lol I've never seen a k04-01 that could pull on me. reguardless of the software.

[dekroon]

I'd steer away from that turbo, unless your coming from a k03 based 150hp 1.8t (which your not). To accomodate that turbo proplery you would also need a fmic, turbo back, turbo inlet pipe and clutch to handle the trq.

Personaly if you are looking to spend that money on hp & trq ;I'd suggest spending that money on a fmic,downpipe & turboinlet pipe instead of that turbo. I'm also assuming you'll have software prior to that point .

[evan@absolute]

Lol I've never seen a k04-01 that could pull on me. reguardless of the software.
just so you notice I said beat him not pull on him. The whole pulling on each other sounds sort of gay(not that there's anything wrong wth that) Man you guys are going to make me buy a mk4.

[Yareka]

have you bought the mk4 yet..the 2.7t forum looks a little lonely these days now that you and chad are the only guys who can pull on each other

[IN-FLT]

lotta pullin back and forth from what I can see !

[FatBastrd]

Damn...with all this pullin that's goin on....I've got plenty of time to pull on all ya'lls moms. :D

[Ak-Abe]

hey budda i will have that super60 for sale very soon for a very good price actually shit i few weeks..:D

[dekroon]

I think Evan wants a mkiv so he can finally buy a big turbo.

[evan@absolute]

have you bought the mk4 yet..the 2.7t forum looks a little lonely these days now that you and chad are the only guys who can pull on each other
don't hate on us cause we both make mad power AND put it to the ground.

[j_sonel]

I have been looking at the K04-01 as well. I also know of a place you can get it for about $200 less than ECS. There is maybe 10HP over a chipped 1.8T, but most dyno's I have seen add about 40-60 lb/ft.

I have never heard of a BT setup that didn't need constant attention. I want a little bit more power and daily driveability. The K04-01 can give me that, and it costs about the same as a new set of wheels. I am also at about 80K, and I don't see my stock K03s lasting too much longer, I think the 01 is a suitable replacement..... I would buying one soon if all my damn friends weren't getting married out of state and making me spend my fun money on travelling! :ohyeah:

[a4wdhybrid]

I have never heard of a BT setup that didn't need constant attention.
i would consider my set up very daily driveable reliable...total knock on wood there to btw :smack:

but after a lot of attention it seems to be running well

same w/ yareka's set up i would say

lots of time in the beginning = :cool: in the end ...just do it right the first time

and keep in mind..there is a difference between needed attention and special attention ;)

[Yareka]

Ever since ripping out the motor and redoing all the old vacuum lines/hardware, I've had no real issues. I spend a little extra time while doing oil changes to check around for leaks and loose nutz. Now I try and fix problems before they occur.

with that being said...replacing the ko3 with a k04 is a good choice if you want stock like reliability. Using your existing coolant/oil lines give piece of mind. You'll still need to replace the clutch at some point but its no biggie once you go to a vr6 clutch.

Reaching that point of having to do rods seems to seperate the men from the boys

[a4wdhybrid]

im getting old :(

[j_sonel]

You'll still need to replace the clutch at some point but its no biggie once you go to a vr6 clutch.

:D I think I already have one :D

Reaching that point of having to do rods seems to seperate the men from the boys

:o True.

[sflemon]

don't hate on us cause we both make mad power AND put it to the ground.

Peloquin.:gt-ogb-spank:

[a4wdhybrid]

fwd :smack:

[FatBastrd]

Ok..what about a K04-015? I want the reliablity and drivablity of stock, but with just a little more ass for highway/spirited driving. I'm not wanting ball-slamming power, just something that'll make someone think/look twice.

[a4wdhybrid]

Ok..what about a K04-015?
-015 cartridges are for longitudinal applications

[j_sonel]

Ok..what about a K04-015? I want the reliablity and drivablity of stock, but with just a little more ass for highway/spirited driving. I'm not wanting ball-slamming power, just something that'll make someone think/look twice.


You could go with a K04-020, which is what comes stock on the TT 225. You would need a good bit more hardward to make that work, (Oil lines, Manifold, up pipe, downpipe...etc) but, it has significant gains over the K04-010.

Honestly, I think you should just upgrade the software and get some use out of that K03s. Just be sure the company you go with has some options for upgrading to a K04 or BT file so that later on down the road you only pay upgrade costs. For example, if you already have a K03s file from GIAC, it's only $100 to upgrade to the K04-010 file.

[Yareka]

If you go with anything more than a k04-01, just go ahead and get a super60 kit. If you are already there changing manifold, downpipe, and oil lines...dont wuss out and put oem crap back on there. You will end up spending the same amount of money on either kit and there is absolutely no upgrade when you decide the -20 isnt doing it for you. Abe on the other hand can throw any t3 flanged turbo on his car, add fueling, and basically throw whatever hp down he chooses.

Once again...anything over a ko4-01 needs a set of rods and thats a big factor

[a4wdhybrid]

Abe on the other hand can throw any t3 flanged turbo on his car, add fueling, and basically throw whatever hp down he chooses.
going from a t-series to a t3 flanged gt series would require an oil restrictor inlet and oil return flange change + coolant lines

not to get specific or anything :p

[Ak-Abe]

going from a t-series to a t3 flanged gt series would require an oil restrictor inlet and oil return flange change + coolant lines

not to get specific or anything :p
true but i think Kevin is speaking of all the T series not GT .:)

[a4wdhybrid]

"any t3 flanged turbo" covers all t-series along w/ gt series starting w/ 3071's since they can be ordered w/ a t3 flanged housing

my 3076 is a t3 flanged turbo..it would fit on your manifold...it would not work w/ your current hardware set up

[Ak-Abe]

"any t3 flanged turbo" covers all t-series along w/ gt series starting w/ 3071's since they can be ordered w/ a t3 flanged housing

my 3076 is a t3 flanged turbo..it would fit on your manifold...it would not work w/ your current hardware set up
True, but when i read what Kevin posted, the first thing that came to my mind is the t3t4 50trim, t3t4 57trim, t3t4 60trim, t3super60 ....the common t series.:)

[a4wdhybrid]

True, but when i read what Kevin posted, the first thing that came to my mind is the t3t4 50trim, t3t4 57trim, t3t4 60trim, t3super60 ....the common t series.:)
thats what came to your mind

thats not what was written

context for context thats not what the post reads

and ppl reading the post that do not have the knowledge others do will take the context for what it says

if some that doesnt know any different has a t3 super 60 and is looking on atp's site...sees a 3076r w/ a t3 flange and then think back to kevins post in their head they might think "t3 flange..that will fit w/ no modification"...when in reality it does require some small changes

we are here for the sharing of information

the more information and detail..the better

[pinky]

he would potentially also need some different diameter couplers, depending on the inlet size...

:p