ok i think im screwed!!!!

[88CABBY]

ok some of you know the trouble ive been having wuith my cabrio well today someone told me that it might be 180 out so i take the ignition out and turn it 180 i tried it and the car wouldn't start so i re-turn it again 180 and now it wont start at all..... anyone in the winston salem area that would like to come and get this thing running i will pay you... please i need help!!!!!!

[eastep]

damn, if i wasnt a broke ass, and had enough fuel to get there id stop by and try and help out. im sure we could get it running

[88CABBY]

damn, if i wasnt a broke ass, and had enough fuel to get there id stop by and try and help out. im sure we could get it running

i will fill your tank UP!!!!!!!please!!!!!!!

[pinky]

you got a timing light?

[88CABBY]

no the car was running like crap and i tried fixing it and i think i made it worse

[pinky]

you turned the distributor, correct?

do you have a bentley manual?

does it run at all?

[vdubb16]

no the car was running like crap and i tried fixing it and i think i made it worse


any 8v owner has those kinda days time and time again.

[88CABBY]

i need help guys!!!!!!

[pinky]

well answer the questions...

:confused:

[xjackflashx]

well answer the questions...

:confused:



now it wont start at all.....


does that answer at least one of your questions:holyshit:?

[keylewm]

I have a bentley I can send with Eric next thursday for reference ( I have to work ) and we can see what we can do to get ya going. Seriously though a bentley manual is probably the best thing you can buy with these cars. It's invaluable and a well spent $45 on your car if you buy a brand new one off ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-Cabriolet-Scirocco-NEW-Bentley-Printed-Manual_W0QQitemZ310034227036QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em310034227036

If you turned the distributor 180 once and couldnt get going,
and turned it another 180 and still no go,
Then if you turn it 180 a third time, in theory that should get you back where you started from and the car should at least start.

However, having messed with it you will probably need that timing light to get it back to where it should be. (unfortunately I dont have a timing light)

When it was looked at last thursday night, it seemed to be an issue with the car getting air in that is causing your problems not the timing. Did you get a chance to check the cold start valve?

[pinky]

5-3.2 - removing and installing distributor

- hand turn the crankshaft in its direction of normal rotation until the no 1 cylinder is in position to fire and the top dead center mark is next to the pointer. the pointer is inside the timing check hole

- make sure that the distributor housing's mounting flange and washer are firmply seated agains the engine block and that the rotor tip is aligned with the no. 1 cylinder mark on teh distributor housing

- loosely install the hold down clamp and the hold down bolt. reconnect the wiring and the hoses to the distributor

- install the distributor cap. adjust ignition timing for distributors without braker points as described in 4.4 adjusting timing then torque hold down bolt to 15 ft-lb

5-4.4

- remove plastic plug from timing check hole (should already be done)
- connect a tachometer then follow instrument manufacturer's instructins, install a stroboscopic timing light
- start the engine and allow it to warm up until the oil temperature is at least 80C, 176F. if the idle speed is not between 850 and 1000rpm, adjust idle as described in fuel and exhaust systems
- on engines with digital idle stabilizers, stop the engine, then detach both plugs from the digital idle stabilizer and connect the plugs together as indicated in 4-8 (pic)
- start the engine and allow it to idle. then check idle speed. should be b/w ~850 and ~1000
- aim timing light at the timing check hole in the bellhousing (where the plug used to be). illuminated by the timing light, the timing mark should appear stationary adjacent to the pointer in the hole.

(my bentley does not cover cabriolet that late..)

- if the timing mark is not correctly aligned with the pointer, loosen the ignition distributor hold down bolt. then with the engine idling between 800 and 1000 rpm hand turn the distributor housing clockwise or counterclockwise until the mark is aligned with the pointer.
- where applicable, reconnect the vacuum retard hose. idle speed should drop by about 200rpm
- stop the engine on engines with digital idle stabilizers, disconnect plugs and reconnect the to the digital idle stabilizer.
- on engines with digital idle stabilizers, restart the engine. accelerate it to about 2k rpm and then allow the engine to return to an idle. with the digital ISV connected, the rpm should stabilize between ~850 and ~1000 rpm
- if necessary, stop the engine. then disconnect the tachometer (if necessary) and timing light.

from the bentley

[jetta-the-hut]

just to help out the timing hole (top dead center) is in the green looking plug on the tranny-mine is green cause of the head gasket blowing coolant all over my engine bay.
line the two arrows up!


http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/jetta-the-hut/IMG_0446.jpg

[Mk2Jettaboy16]

any 8v owner has those kinda days time and time again.


a-freakin-men

[88CABBY]

i followed the directions and still will not start when i tool the spark plugs out they were soaked in gas and this is what they looked like. and maybe you can take a look at my engine and see if its missing anything.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg32/Boosted236/P3230792.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg32/Boosted236/P3230793.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg32/Boosted236/P3230799.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg32/Boosted236/P3230798.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg32/Boosted236/P3230800.jpg

and what is this for?!!!!!
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg32/Boosted236/P3230795.jpg

[AaronEllis]

and what is this for?!!!!!
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg32/Boosted236/P3230795.jpg


that looks like one of the plugs to keep the engine warm when it is freezing cold out. alot of northern cars have them for winter

[88CABBY]

thank you Matt told me thats what it was. what about the other stuff? anyone?????

[88CABBY]

anyone? im willing to pay for help!!!!!!!

[granolasupreme]

From the pics it seems like it could still be a ignition problem. Did you set the timing according to the directions 5-3.2 - removing and installing distributor? You may want to buy a new set of spark plugs or try to clean and re-gap the pulgs. You may be having a problem with your ignition coil, check the connections on it to make sure there is no corrision on the terminals.

This website has alot of info to help starting cis car
http://www.vintagewatercooleds.com/tech/Techtips/Timbotechnotes/starting/starting.htm

For ignition troubleshooting
http://www.vintagewatercooleds.com/tech/Techtips/Timbotechnotes/ignition/Ignition.htm

[88CABBY]

yes i did followed the instructions but im not too mechanically incline when it comes to VW's, i did check the coil and there is power on it, im in Winston Salem and pleaseeee i will pay someone to help me ill even have beer in an ICE cooler...lol

[88CABBY]

Anyone!!!!!!!

[88CABBY]

ok guyssss i met Tom today and he let me borrow his manuals and also gave me some tips on what it can be wrong with my car and wallah!!!! she started still running a little rough but at least it starts..... maybe i can get someone to adjust the timing i don't have a timing gun......anyone?!!!!!

[granolasupreme]

Bueller?...

[88CABBY]

no his name is Tom "VDUBNLVN" he seems to know his stuff and cool guy too. he has alot of parts and cars @ his place. good rep for Tom.

[pinky]

yeh.. tom's a cool guy

what was the problem? was it the timing?

[88CABBY]

i think the problem still there im going to see about if tom will take a look at it soon. i got all the points aligned and the car started but this morning it started but it still feels like is missing could it the coil? i have spark and i compression and fuel i will mess with it some more and take it to toms house...

[pinky]

could be a lot of things... there's a procedure in the bentley for checking the coil.. you'll need a multimeter.. could also be just about any part of the fuel and/or ignition system.

that narrows it down, huh?

hey, at least its not digi2...

[88CABBY]

GRRRRR ok here we go again the damn gremlin is back..... this last night after driving the car for a while i parked it then about an hour after parking the car i went to start it and the same thing it didnt want to start and it kept back firering BAD. then this morning it did the same thing i manage to get it on the road and with my foot all the way down on the gas the car wouldnt go anywhere it would just crawl i went to autozone and got some starting fluid i sprayed it on the CSi and it got a little better i got on the road again and it did the same thing.... so i got pissed and punched the stearing wheel and the car took off like a bat out of hell but it still hesitating.... :( does anyone knows what it can be? again i will pay someone to fix it pleaseeeeee and im NOT punching the stearing wheel AGAIN......